Speaking With the Dead, No. 1
Speaking with the dead is a very
fascinating subject in our day. We have learned that demons can
possess unbelievers and that they can influence Christians. They can do this through idolatry, through
sex, through drugs, and through mental attitude sins. All
of these are expressions of negative volition.
We looked at the demoniac of the
Gerasenes as an example of demon possession. What we found there
can be applied to our current situation of people who are
demon-possessed and demon-influenced. We discovered in that
scriptural record that a demon-possessed person has a loss of
individuality. He has abnormal
tastes. He goes in for nudity in public. He pursues self-mutilation.
He is characterized by raging violence.
He has abnormal strength. He
can be indwelt by a multiplicity of demons. The demons fear to be sent to
the abyss, where someday they are going to be restrained, during the
millennium. The demons are subject to
the commands of Jesus Christ. The demons
cause abnormal animal behavior. We also
found that society was helpless under demon influence.
As a matter of fact, they preferred it to the
presence of the Lord.
Now this morning we begin a study of
the role of demons in
séances, contacting the dead, and in miracle healings and in
tongues. Now there is a fallacy that we
need to look
at this morning, to begin with, which is going to apply not only to
the dead, which is our subject this morning, but also to the subject of
healing, and to the subject of speaking in tongues.
We have established, first of all, that all
supernatural phenomena are not from God.
For example, the magicians of the Pharaohs in Egypt
in Exodus 7:11-12,
20-22, and Exodus 8:7. All of these
passages record miracles that the magicians of the Pharaohs’
court were able to
produce, identical to the things Moses was doing under the power of God. Revelation 13:13-15 and Matthew 24:24 speak
to us about the False Prophet who will be doing, in the end times, some
miraculous things. In fact, the miracles,
the supernatural that he will perform will be of such an impressive
even elect people will almost be deceived into believing that it is of
Satan and his demons thus have the
power to counterfeit the
miraculous. Now you must understand
that. So if you see a person healed,
that doesn’t mean that God did it, though the person may have
been healed. If you hear a person in
gibberish, or even if
you heard a person speaking in a known language of the world today
individual himself did not know, it is not necessarily of God. If you hear someone speaking from beyond the
grave, it is not of God. The demons can
cause sickness, and they can heal by removing the sickness. One thing they cannot do is raise the
dead. That’s one of the current
that the Jesus movement people are trying to do. They
are practicing in morticians’
establishments to raise the dead.
They can cause feelings of ecstasy in
individuals. Consequently, the demons can
tongues—gibberish, but they can even imitate known languages. They can influence believers.
They can cause them to do such things, as the
Jesus people who are trying to turn water into wine.
Now the demons could accommodate this.
Supposing it happened. Suppose
that the next time this group meets
and has their Lord’s Supper, and they pray for the water to be
wine, suppose that it does. That does
not mean that God has acted. Now unless
you understand this and get this clearly in your minds, you will be at
a loss to
interpret what is actually taking place in the experiences of people
So the question is not whether anybody
had a certain
experience or whether it took place, because it did.
The question is whether the experience is
from God or whether it is from Satan.
Only doctrine determines which it is.
Therefore, you must know doctrine.
One thing that characterizes people who make this
mistake of judging the
Word of God by their experience, one thing that characterizes those
that they’re ignorant of doctrine. They
don’t know much about the teachings of the Word of God. This is the primary mistake of the
Pentecostalists, judging doctrine by experience—their own or
that has been reported to them. Satan
counterfeits divine experiences (2 Corinthians 11:13-15).
So there are certain problems when we
try to judge by
experience, and here’s what they are.
Problem number one is misapprehension.
To judge whether a true or not true by your
experience, or someone
else’s experience, has the problem of misapprehension of the
origin of the
experience. Many real experiences are
psychological, or satanic in origin rather than divine.
The unbeliever can be indwelt by the
demon. The Christian can be influenced
by them. Demons have great information
about past. They have often been
eyewitnesses to events of history. So
they are able to imitate historical personalities.
They speak languages, even in ancient
languages, because they have been there.
They have learned these things.
They have heard them. They
influence, therefore, the mentality of a believer, as well as indwell
They can manipulate the emotions so
that a person feels
good. Demons will give you an experience
of ecstatics where the control of your directive mind is neutralized by
religion or by the old sin nature or by carnality, and the emotions
and dominate your being.
Demons Predicting the
Demons can predict the future. How can demons tell the future?
Where does a fortune teller get his
information that he can make such fantastic declarations?
How can a Jean Dixon predict that President
Kennedy, if he comes to Dallas, is going to be assassinated? Well demons are able to predict the future,
for certain reasons, as they did to her.
Demons are able to bring about the one thing that
they predict. That’s point number
one. They can bring about what they
predict. They have limited areas of
freedom to work on
people and on events, so they can bring about what they predict is
going to happen.
Secondly, demons gain information by
listening to the plans
of others, so they know what’s up. They
were privy to the plans of Lee Harvey Oswald, to the assassination of
Kennedy. They were observing all of his
moves and they put two and two together as he made the preparations,
secured the weapon, and so on. As demons
surround and observe you and listen in to what you are saying, and so
Number three, the demons have great
understanding of the
patterns of human nature and of the logical consequences.
Consequently they can predict the logical
consequences of certain acts because they know where human nature is
move. They’re able to interpret a
person’s real intentions, by means of his actions.
They have a vast frame of reference on which
to judge. They’re able to discern
implications behind what people say, and what the outcomes are going to
what they say.
Fourth, they learn from the general
outline of biblical
prophecy and the information from the angelic convocations. Remember that God calls the demons and the
good angels together and they have angelic convocations such as they
Job. And when the demons are told to
report in, Satan and all the demons trudge up there and they report in
and they have a mass convocation, and the discussions give them further
information, as they did in Job’s case.
So, demons have ways of knowing the
future. Misapprehensions of the sources of
information. When you judge by experience,
you are likely to misapply where the information came from.
Second is faulty deduction of the
nature of the
experience. An actual experience can be
mislabeled or misunderstood. Doctrine is
the only frame of reference to evaluate what has actually happened.
Then there is a third, and
that’s variation in emotional
patterns. People have variations in
emotional patterns. An emotionally
unstable person has difficulty in learning and accepting doctrine. Consequently, this person lacks a storage of
doctrine within his being, and consequently he is an unreliable
what is taking place. He has wild swings
of emotions and he substitutes his emotions for divine viewpoint. So an emotionally dominated person is
psychologically unqualified to interpret experience reliably. So an argument by experience or feeling
doesn’t necessarily mean a thing as to what is really the truth.
Alright, with that background,
let’s look at the practice of
necromancy. This word means contacting
the dead. The practice of necromancy is
to speak with the dead. It comes from
the Greek word “necros,” which means “dead,”
and from a second Greek word
meaning “divination” or “bringing information.”
So what it means is divination or telling the future
or gaining hidden knowledge
by contacting the dead.
There are certain terms that are used
in the authorized
version that you should be familiar with.
As you read through your translation in the
authorized version, the King
James Bible, you will come across the term “familiar
spirit.” This refers to a demon who
information. You’ll come across the
“wizard.” This is a male
medium or a
fortune teller. A witch is a female
medium or a female fortune teller. Then
you have the expression “spirit of divination” which means
a demon who
possesses a medium and fakes communication as coming from the dead.
Necromancy is a demonic function. It is used to gain control of people. Let’s establish it once and for all. The dead cannot be contacted.
You cannot speak to dead people.
There has never in the history of the world,
except on one occasion that we shall look at this morning, been a
someone who has died. Instead, the
demons speak, as if it is the dead person speaking.
They’re able to imitate his voice. They have information. They
know what to say and what not to
say. The vehicle for this practice is
the séance where people gather around a table in a darkened
room, often holding
hands. They sit in a room and contact,
through the medium, someone from the dead.
It is really a demon they’re contacting.
This is called a séance.
practice of necromancy is a sign of negative volition to doctrine. The most recent example that we have in our
day, as we have indicated, is that of Bishop Pike who denied major
doctrine and thus was encouraged by the demon’s fake
communication from his son
because he didn’t know how to interpret what was happening.
The Bible condemns all efforts to
communicate with the
dead. The religions of the world are not
hindered by a belief in spiritistic activity because the religions of
actually come from demons. They are
demons in origin. Bishop Pike abandoned
all biblical authority as the supreme source of spiritual truth.
In a paragraph from Dr. Unger’s
book on The Hauntings of
Bishop Pike, Dr. Unger says, concerning Bishop Pike, “He
maintained that we
are more and more open to truth, no matter what its source, and most
today would not assert that Buddhists, Muslims, and even animists
worship a different
god, but rather that they worship the ground of all being in a
Bishop Pike said the Bible is not the
only source of truth,
and that all the religions of the world originate on the basis of
they are all worshipping the same supreme being. However,
what the bishop did was that he
rejected all of the scriptural prohibitions concerning mediums and
mediums in order to contact the dead (Leviticus 19:31, Leviticus 26,
20:27). In these passages, God declares
that He is God. He is the source of
information, and therefore He is the one to be contacted.
So contact with the spirit world of
demons is forbidden
because it degrades a person and it leads him away from God and from
truth. Modern spiritism is all around
us. But it is not in some primitive
form. In our culture it is dressed up in
a most refined way, but it has the same self-destructive end. Again quoting Dr. Unger in describing
spiritism today, “The manners and the methods of occult forces
since the attacks on God’s people in Old Testament days. Purpose and power are the same.
Diviners … sorcerers, charmers, mediums,
wizards, and necromancers were the pagan professionals who interceded
their gods. The demon spirits who
idols (1 Corinthians 10:19-20).
“Their modern counterparts, the
mediums, psychics, clairvoyance,
astrologers, and fortune tellers of the present day are cultured
who mediate the same spiritistically oriented religion.
Modern spiritistic groups respect, venerate,
and worship the evil spirits of antiquity, though often unwittingly. The demons thereby lose the abject
subservience they desire, but they gain the mortal’s dependence
eventual companionship in hell.”
Now Bishop Pike was totally
disoriented in his mind relative
to spiritual reality. Once he rejected
the Word of God, he was adrift. There
was nothing to feed up to the directive side of his mind to give him a
reference that was God’s point of view.
He lost all divine viewpoint though he was a high
church man who was a
leader in his denomination.
Once more, Dr. Unger, concerning
Bishop Pike says, “Bishop
Pike lost sight of this when he asserted that the severe scriptural
are of little help to us today for our world view is so different. Actually, the bishop meant that his world
view did not conform to the world view of the Old Testament. Since the bishop had indeed renounced the
authority of the Word of God, the scriptural warnings had no effect in
deterring him from the snare of the occult.
The bishop’s abandoned spirit-oriented
Christianity in favor of spiritistically-oriented
religion, which retained a Christian aura.
He had such little spiritual insight that he
criticized Christians for
not welcoming mediumistic communications with the dead as exciting
life beyond the grave.
background makes his error all the more
subtle and dangerous. It’s deception
the more, luring in undetectable, and its expose all the more
imperative. Satan’s masquerade as an
angel of light is
far more destructive than his forays as a devouring lion.”
As you remember perhaps, Bishop
Pike’s son Jim committed
suicide. Then a series of things began
taking place in the flat in Cambridge, England.
Things that the spirit world refers to as levitation. Things being moved about.
And signs that eventually led step-by-step to
Bishop Pike going to a medium in an attempt to contact his dead whom he
was trying to leave signals behind in his room in various ways to
he was trying to get in touch with him. And sure enough he sat down
with a medium
and spoke to a voice from the spirit world.
One time in Canada on national television hook-up. If you are interested you might pursue the
full details on the hauntings of Bishop Pike by Dr. Merrill Unger.
Our point this morning is that this is
a great reality, and
Bishop Pike brought speaking to the dead to a new height of interest
on the part of devotees of spiritistic cults.
Dr. Pike had rejected the account of Saul and the
Medium of Endor as a
biased account, though it is God’s great expose on the
fraudulence of spiritism
today. Had he paid attention to this
record in Scripture, it would have preserved him from what may well
in his case the sin unto death as he died out in the Judean desert
historic Jesus that he rejected on the pages of Scripture.
Isaiah 8:19 tells us, and when they
shall say unto you, seek
unto those who are mediums, and unto wizards (male fortune tellers)
and that mutter, should not a people seek unto their god?
Should they seek on behalf of the living to
the dead? What kind of sense is this
that we who are the living should look to the dead for guidance instead
the living God?
Verse 20 says, “To the law and
to the testimony! If they speak not
according to this word, it
is because there is no light in them.”
Necromancy can lead to the sin of death (1
Chronicles 10:13), which
perhaps was the case of Bishop Pike’s situation.
The sin of death is a sin, it can be any kind
of sin, that you have gone so far in building up spiritual callouses
soul that you are completely insensitive to God and to man, and God
the believer home to heaven.
Alright, here’s a summary about
necromancy: Number 1, people conducting
séances do not
contact the dead (Luke 16:27-31). In the
case of Lazarus and the rich man that you have described there, the
said, “Please send Lazarus back from the dead to warn my brothers
that hell is
a reality.” He was denied this
because the dead cannot speak to the living, but he was reminded that
have the Word of God from which to learn.
Number 2, it is not possible or
necessary to communicate
with the dead. Doctrine through the Holy
Spirit gives us full guidance.
Number 3, believers who have died are
in the Lord’s presence
separated from all past and happiness on earth.
Dead people thus do not see those of us who are on
the earth. Dead people do not listen in to
conversations of the living. Demons do
watch and they do listen.
Number 4, attempts to communicate with
the dead are
forbidden because it means contact with demons.
And you have many verses that forbid this practice
(Leviticus 19:13, 26,
27, Deuteronomy 18:9-12, 2 Kings 23:24, 1 Timothy 4:1).
People who do contact the spirit world
during a séance are
therefore communicating with a demon who controls the mediums vocal
(Isaiah 8:19, Isaiah 29:4).
Please take your Bibles and
let’s turn to the only time that
a person ever spoke with someone from the dead, 1 Samuel 28. This is the story of King Saul and the Medium
of Endor. 1 Samuel 28:3.
Here is the historical situation.
“Now Samuel was dead and all Israel was dead
had lamented him and buried him in Ramah, even in his own city. And Saul had put away those who were mediums
and wizards out of the land.” Samuel,
the last of the great judges out of Israel was dead.
The nation greatly mourned his passing.
As a priest, Samuel had communicated the
written word as an exegete.
By the way, this word
“exegesis” means simply explaining the
Word of God. A person who explains the
Word of God is an “exegete.” This
work of the pastor teacher. The word
“exegesis” means explaining the Word, expository preaching. This is what Samuel did with the written
word, and as a prophet Samuel communicated the spoken Word of God with
revelations. Samuel’s presence with
Bible doctrine had served to restrain King Saul from the satanic
he was inclined to.
King Saul was out of temporal
fellowship. He was a psychotic of the
type. He fluctuated with his fears and
with his highs and his lows of emotion.
With Samuel gone, the line of communication with God
was gone. Saul proceeds immediately to get
worse. Saul had realized, however, the
demonic activity on the nation, so he had earlier purged the nation of
from those who were practicing spiritism.
He had imposed the death penalty on anybody who was
necromancy. The mediums that you have
here (or in your authorized version it says “familiar
spirit”)—these people who
had a familiar spirit are described by the Hebrew word is
“ob.” This is a familiar
spirit and this is what a
person who practices contacting the dead is said to have.
He has an “ob.”
Now the Septuagint is a Greek
translation of the Old
Testament Hebrew. From previous
centuries to give us some insight as to what the Hebrew words meant,
uses the word “eggastrimuthos.” This
a ventriloquist. That’s what the
means. An “eggastrimuthos”
demon is a
ventriloquist demon, and it was the word used to translate the Old
“ob.” So what we have
indicated from the
Septuagint translators is a person who is possessed by a demonic spirit
can supposedly communicate with the dead is a ventriloquist demon. He’s speaking to a demon who’s
voice, the mannerisms, and the information that he has concerning
the medium is trying to contact. It
conveys the idea of projecting the voice as if it were originating from
person. Demons speaking for a dead
Isaiah chapter 8 verse 19 uses this
same word “ob,” and it
describes what these ventriloquist demons do.
Isaiah 8:19 says, “When they shall say unto
you, ‘Seek unto those who
are mediums (or who have an “ob,” who have an
“eggastrimuthos” demon) and unto
wizards that peep and that mutter.’” They
are described as those who peep and mutter.
They chirp and squeak because they are mimicking
sounds. That’s the idea. People who mimic sounds. They
are mimicking the voices and the sounds
of other people.
In Isaiah 29:4 there is another
description of this. “And thou shall
be brought down and shall
speak out of the ground and thy speech shall be low out of the dust and
voice shall be like an ‘ob’ (again, an
“eggastrimuthos”) out of the ground and
thy speech shall whisper out of the dust.”
You have the picture here of this ventriloquist
demon throwing his voice
so that the person seems to be speaking naturally from the ground where
that the dead are. They have this
chirping and muttering and mimicking of sounds.
That’s exactly the words that the Scriptures
use to describe this.
In Samuel 28 we’re also told
that Saul not only got rid of
the mediums who had the “ob” but also the wizards. The wizards are the “yidoni.” These are “the knowing ones.” Thus they are the work of the fortune
teller. The “yidoni” are the
have the means of knowing. They have
secrets from the unseen world. This is
used in the bad sense in the Old Testament of the false prophets. They are called the “yidoni,” the
Now this fact concerning Saul is noted
to us after telling
us that Samuel is dead. Then it tells us
that Saul has gotten rid of people who could contact the dead through
spirit, and through those wizards who had “knowledge” of
the spirit world. Saul killed them or
underground. And this is told us as
background for the story that follows here.
We want you to notice that Saul once was a man of
volition. He once said “yes”
to God just
like you may have once said “yes” to God.
Verse 4 tells us, “The
Philistines gathered themselves
together and came and encamped in Shunem, and Saul gathered all Israel
and they encamped in Gilboa.” The
armies were in visual contact. Here’s
the condition of Saul as the Philistines were mobilizing to attack him.
Verse 5 says, “And when Saul saw
the hosts of the
Philistines, he was afraid, and his heart greatly trembled.” Remember that Saul is a believer.
He is out of temporal fellowship.
Temporal Fellowship /
Temporal fellowship can be illustrated
with two concentric circles
(one within another). The outer circle is
eternal fellowship. You enter this at
the point of salvation by faith in Jesus Christ. The
inner circle is temporal fellowship. You
enter that circle also immediately upon
salvation. Upon willful sin, you leave
that inner circle. Sin takes you
out. You have now left the point of
spirituality. The inner circle connotes
spirituality. Being out of the inner circle connotes carnality. You do not leave your salvation.
You do not leave your eternal
fellowship. But you do leave this inner
temporal fellowship. You no longer have
fellowship with God in time. Your
prayers are nothing. Your service is
nothing. You cannot produce divine
good. You produce nothing but human good
in the carnal state. Confession of sin
brings you back in as per 1 John 1:9, into that inner circle where you
again productive of divine good.
Well, what Saul had done was that he
had sinned through
several mental attitude sins, particularly toward David, and it had
as a believer out of the inner circle and he was now out of temporal
fellowship. He had jealousy and anger
and hatred and vindictiveness toward David, and he was even trying to
life. He refused to confess, so the
directive side of his mind was completely cut off from information from
and he was out here in the realm of carnality, completely cut off from
So it was natural, under that
condition, when he sees the
forces gathered against him, that he should fear. A
person whose directive mind has been
neutralized is a person who will be fearful.
There can be no courage in battle.
Battle courage stems from having a mind that is in
God. When a mind is out of fellowship
with God, there is no relaxed mental attitude, then we are paralyzed. So battle courage had been knocked out of
Saul, though he had defeated these very Philistines many times in the
past. He lacked any sense of divine
viewpoint as to what he should do concerning the imminent attack.
Verse 6 says he makes a decision. “Then Saul inquired of the Lord, and the
answered him not, neither by dreams nor by Urim nor by prophets.” In the Old Testament, God had three ways of
answering and giving information before the Old Testament canon (the
Testament scripture) was completed. One
was by dreams—God speaking to a person through visions. Secondly was by means of the Urim. The word “Urim” in Hebrew means
lights. On the breastplate of the high
priest were a
series of stones—squares divided into twelve, each square
tribe. A God spoke and delivered His
mind to the people through the high priest, these squares would light
up. The Urim would give signals through a
that they understood as to what God was saying.
Leviticus 8:8 tells you about this breastplate. Leviticus 27:21 tells you how it was
illuminated. But none of this happened.
Along with the Urim was also the
“Thummin.” The Thummin was a
“yes and no” device of some
kind, perhaps on the shoulders of the high priest.
The high priest could go before God and say,
we go to battle with the Philistines?”
And left shoulder “no” would light up,
or right shoulder “yes” would
light up. Or they would say, “Are we
going to be victorious in the battler?”
And God would say “yes” or
“no” by the light. So through
the Urim and the Thummin, God
expressed His intentions and desires very clearly.
But this was cut off from Saul. We’re told that there was nothing. He was cut off from any visions.
He was cut off from Urim and Thummin.
And he was also cut off from prophets.
Samuel was dead. The
only people that surrounded him were the
National Council of Churches type, and they had no genuine
with God. So God gave no communication
to Saul through the three media that generally were available.
He makes a decision, verse 7. Saul decides to consult a medium.
So Saul said unto his servants, “Seek me a
woman who is a medium (that is, one who has the spirit of an
‘ob)’ that I may
go to her and inquire of her. And his
servants said to him, ‘Behold there is a woman who is a medium at
Endor.’” Literally this means
“a woman who is a
mistress of a conjuring spirit.” That’s
what it means. “Find me a woman who
mistress of a conjuring spirit—a spirit which can bring up the
dead. I have the desire to speak with her
some information; that I may inquire of her.”
Yet, Leviticus 19:31 strictly forbids this. The servants say, “We know a medium. She’s at Endor.”
In verse 8, Saul disguises himself,
takes two aides with
him, and they go by night to the residence of the medium.
He says to her, “I pray thee, divine unto me
as a medium and bring me him up whom I shall name unto thee.” “Divine unto me” means bring up
person from Sheol through a spirit. He’s
asking this woman to practice necromancy.
Saul says, “I’ll tell you who I want you
to bring up.” The person is going to
be, of course,
Verse 9 tells us that the woman
hesitates to hold a séance. She
reminds the disguised Saul, whom she does
not know to be the king, that King Saul has passed an edict that has
death penalty upon anybody who holds a séance.
It is strictly forbidden. So
woman fears for her life and she also fears that this might be a trap. She’s not quite sure who these men are
have come to her.
In verse 10 Saul proceeds to take an
oath, and of all
things, by whom? You’ll notice he
an oath by the Lord, that is, by Jehovah.
Saying, “As the Lord liveth there shall no
punishment happen to thee for
this thing.” Using the most sacred
the name “Jehovah,” the most sacred name of God, to take an
immunity for what Jehovah himself has forbidden under penalty of
a demon spirit to speak to the dead. So
it shows how great had become the buildup of callouses on the soul of
Saul. He was nearly to the point where
he was ready for the execution of the sin unto death.
Negative volition to doctrine and demon
influence are closely allied, and I hope you have caught that. Negative volition to doctrine and demon
influence are closely related.
In verse 11 the medium seems to be
satisfied so she agrees
to hold a séance. The woman says,
do you want me to contact?” And the
demon who possesses the woman proceeds to get ready to respond. So Saul says, “I want to speak to
Samuel.” And the woman proceeds with
her séance. She’s going to
contact this ventriloquist
demon. Now these two have probably worked
together before. The demon already knew,
by eavesdropping, what King Saul wanted, so he had the file out and
was ready to go.
The woman begins the séance.
She goes through her routine before Saul and these
men. They’re sitting there around
the table, maybe
holding hands. It’s already night. They put the lights down, and the woman goes
through her pitch. “Oh, demon
world. Great and magnificent spirit
speak to us if you are there. We desire
oh great prophet Samuel. Come to us
Samuel. We are waiting for you. We are
waiting. We listen.”
Then at that point, normally, the
demon would come up to the
microphone and say, “Yeah, this is Samuel here.
I’m flying in at 36,000 feet through broken
overcast. Our ground temperature is now 75
degrees. We are coming rather
rapidly. All four engines have fallen
off and we’ll be on the ground very soon now.”
Then he proceeds to carry on the discussion with her.
But suddenly, while she’s going
through her routine, and
waiting for the demon to make his pitch, something goes wrong. Something goes fantastically wrong. God interrupts the séance.
He converts the fake presentation of talking
to the dead with a real communication with the dead, and causes Samuel
materialize right before her eyes. Now
apparently, Saul did not see the apparition, but she did.
The only time in history that anyone has ever
contacted the dead. As we said with
Lazarus and the rich man, he was not permitted to go back.
So the demon is also aware of
what’s happening, but he’s
unable to stop it. He can’t stop
happening. The woman sees the apparition
and suddenly she knows how they operate, and she knows that this is the
thing, and she’s filled with alarm and horror.
So the medium screams in terror.
You can probably imagine this poor demon who is
getting ready to do his
part and suddenly he sees what’s happening.
He knows that things have gone out of control. He’s in a panic. He’s
probably calling and sending signals
back to Satan, “I need some help up here.”
And suddenly while he’s centering on the
apparition, this woman sends
out a blood-curdling scream. You can
just imagine that demon turning and saying, “Don’t do that. Things are bad enough without you scaring the
wits out of me with that screaming.”
But she was terrified because of what
was happening. The whole demon army of
Satan was not able to
stop what God was doing. In her state of
clairvoyance, now that she was under the demon’s control, she
aware of who her customer was. She not
only saw Samuel appearing, but because she was now under the
she had demon-influenced information, and she knew who it was that was
across the table; that it was, of all people, King Saul, the very one
who had passed
the edict. Therefore she breaks out in a
rebuke against the king.
Now the demon probably had kept this
information from the
woman in order to be able to use her to give Saul the direction that
wanted him to have, so he could control him.
Now, perhaps, the demon seeing that things had
gotten out of control,
leveled with her in order to calm her outburst.
She in hysterics rebukes the king for asking her to
do the very thing
that he had forbidden.
So verse 12 says, “And when the
woman saw Samuel she cried
with a loud voice and the woman spoke to Saul saying, ‘Why hast
me, for thou art Saul?’ And the king
said unto her, ‘Be not afraid. What
sawest thou?’” Saul reassures
says, “Tell me, what do you see?”
And she says, “I saw gods
ascending out of the earth.” Now the
word “gods” here is our old word “Elohim,”
which is the plurality name of God, and is used sometimes of pagan gods
as of the true God, indicating the Trinity, in the plurality of this
word. But what she is saying is not,
“I see God
here,” nor even “false gods.” What
is saying is, “I see a celestial spirit being coming up, and
appropriately out of the earth,” because that’s where
Samuel was. He was in the Paradise section
of Sheol where
the Old Testament dead resided. And she
says, “I see a being, a celestial being, coming out of the
form, out of the abode of the dead.”
Verse 14 says, “And he said unto
her, ‘What form is he of?’ And
she said, ‘An old man cometh up and he is
covered up with a mantel.’” She
description of the figure she sees. He’s
an old man and he’s wrapped in a mantel, which in Hebrew is
“meil.” A “meil”
is a robe that a person of dignity,
a person of VIP, wears. And Saul
immediately recognizes this as the prophet’s mantel, such as
wore in life (1 Samuel 15:27). So
here in this “meil,” like a robe on him, and immediately
they recognize who he
is. He says, “It’s
Samuel.” “And Saul perceived
that it was Samuel, and
he stooped his face to the ground and bowed himself.” He bowed down to Samuel in reverence. He apparently has not seen the
apparition. He’s expressing respect
toward the very one to whom he was negative.
Now comes the most fantastic
confrontation between a living
person and a dead person. Saul’s
confrontation with Samuel. I find this
one of the most informative, one of the most instructive areas of
Scripture. A couple of weeks ago,
something struck me here that I had not noticed or put together before
concerning the matter of negative volition and how God views this, and
results of it. Is it a thing of any
great importance when you decide that you don’t like one local
church, you don’t
like teaching, teacher, or the technique of that church, and you decide
to some other church? Is there a problem
the next time you walk down the street, and the person who once sat
longer is there and has departed? What
should your conduct be on that occasion?
I’ll tell you something right
now. If you miss the boat on that issue,
let human judgment be your guide, you are removing yourself from some
rewards. I see more Christians who go
carnal and who destroy eternal rewards and their divine good at this
because they don’t know what to do with the person who walked out
assembly. They don’t know what to do
when they meet this person again. They
don’t know what to do with this person.
But this passage is a divine revelation of exactly
what God expects you
to do. It puts in perspective as no
other Scripture that I know of at the moment, what God thinks
“no” to the truth.
Now we’re not talking about
saying “no” to what is not the
truth. We’re not talking about
as the Scripture says, “Test it. Hold
fast that which is true.” We’re
talking about some preacher who is telling you which is not true. We’re not talking about some teaching
is false. We’re not talking about
church which is all involved in some kind of action program which is
to the Word of God. We’re talking
an operation that God says, “Yes sir, you’re in phase with
me. You’re in phase in your teaching. You’re in phase in your teacher. You’re in phase in your technique.” Now when you move from that situation, you
taken the most dramatic act of negative volition for which God brings
disastrous judgments. You had better
understand this because we have a lot of “love everybody”
disorientation in the
mentalities of Christians on this issue alone, especially here where we
such good manners like we do in the South.
Our good manners, our human viewpoint good manners
become our guide in
dealing with people in this situation.
We’re going to pick up the story
here next week and we’re
going to look at the dramatic confrontation between a living person and
person—the only time it happened.
John E. Danish, 1971
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